This needs saying. - Page 3

Betsybug0 · 05-10-2007, 04:24 AM

I agree with these major points, I just think its stilly to try to be peacefull unless we conjoin the forums or something.

w0lv3n · 05-10-2007, 05:49 AM

peaceful doesnt mean we have to love the other forums, just dont be negative towards em. You dont have to recommend other places, join them or be happy for them. Just acknowledge they exist, and that you have no problem with their existence?

im gonna go mow my lawn!

Betsybug0 · 05-10-2007, 11:53 PM

*Helps mow lawn*

Okay. I'll be peacefull. *Humph*.

w0lv3n · 05-11-2007, 03:45 AM

thanks for doing the edges!

Hahaha

In the end you will always do what you want to do, and be who you want to be! Not my place to stop anyone!

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Markme · 05-14-2007, 03:17 PM

With the adding Speakout to the related links collumn, i have spoken to gav about us linking sites and he said different parties on the site were still uneasy about us at the time.

I still think about speakout, as i still wear the shirt Courtenay gave me at the speakout sponsored event. I feel no rivalry, i just see gav, Notebook and a place i used to spend some time speaking with people

Rivalry is another word for insecurity in my mind, possibly even fear.
Myself and Tommeh!! didnt open the forum to shut down speakout,
my reasons behind opening it, were myself and the staff on speakout has disagreements, i got angry because i thought i was being treated unfairly and i needed another place to go...

TeenHelp is too big to feel like a family, it feels like your reaching out into the faceless cyber space.

So Exasco was Re-Incarnated, brought back from the ashes and memories..

Rivalry... maybe it only happens when one community looks at another community, Not the people looking at the other people.

i have no real answers, just tired babble and a happy smile that we are here!

Tommeh!!! · 05-15-2007, 09:30 PM

ooh, i wish i had seen this earlier. tis a thread of good points.
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website rivalry is sickeningly petty to me.

louvitti · 03-17-2008, 05:08 PM

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ktma · 10-10-2008, 03:50 AM

i miss the old exasko, even though i had a different name on there, issac was amazing. I never talked bad about him or anything, the old exasko saved my life.. the new one is what keeps me going, i thank issac for being such a brave person and putting aside his own problems to help others. I admire him for everything he's done.

elmtree · 10-10-2008, 09:46 PM

I am completely unaware of rivalry between websites, this is completely new to me. I'm not interested in slagging any other forums off, I don't see the point or why someone would want to in the first place! I loved SpeakOut, I felt like it saved us and brought us back to together after the downfall of Exasko. It was a lovely community, and any person who is part of a forum community is there because they love that community.

Isaac could have very easily posted a thread about shutting Exasko down a few weeks prior to him doing it, and just not looked back at the thread (and blocking contacts on AIM, MSN ETC, and ignoring emails if he had to. It's quite easy.) Then he wouldn't have had to deal with the hassle people were, perhaps quite rightly, going to give him, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, every member would have known they had SpeakOut to join incase they needed help. I still worry about the Exasko-ers who never discovered SpeakOut, and whether they really needed our help and if anything bad happened to them because they had nowhere to go. A lot of people were dealing with self harm, drug and alcohol addictions and were suffering from depression and suicidal behaviour. They may have really needed us.

I'm not angry at Isaac for what happened really. I don't think I ever showed particular anger towards him, just disappointment and concern over the issue that our members were without Exasko and did not know about SpeakOut. I thought the whole situation was very unfair though, of course. I think we all had a right to be angry. People also make mistakes though, and in time we are willing to forgive people for their mistakes.

I have, however, shown anger towards Isaac here at Exasco for his patronising, nasty and egotistical behaviour, which is quite clearly unacceptable and I am not willing to tolerate it. Especially when he was slagging off Markme. This is our community now, and how he thinks he can walk in out of nowhere, after everything he did, and criticise Markme's forum the way he did is disgusting. This is Markme's forum, not his, despite what he seems to think.

Because of his behaviour and the things he has said here, I feel much angrier about the subject than I actually did beforehand, and am not willing to fully forgive such a person who behaves and talks in the way he displayed that night. Someone should deserve to be forgiven to actually be forgiven, and I see little proof that he is willing of it and he does not show much remorse for his actions in my opinion. He may say he's sorry, but along with everything else he's said I really doubt so. Anyone can type the words "I'm sorry." quite easily.

I'm not sure what is meant by the narrow-minded people on forums. I'm afraid everyone has bad days or things that touch a nerve and they may come across as rather close-minded on a subject because of this - and thats life. People disagree. If someone has a point to say, they're much obligated to say it (in most circumstances anyhows.
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). We're also much obligated to criticise them for it.
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*White Pearl* · Yesterday, 10:08 AM

Although I have never had a say in this and have never been use to expressing myself.
I think it is time that I did, what happened has happened. It is the past, they way it was dealt with it was ridiculous, yes he was pressurized, yes he could not cope but in my by no means should he have let it out on anyone, anyone at all!

His attitude was atrocious. I am a very forgiving person but like elm said his behavior is what was not liked, he did good by bringing a community together which I appreciate but the way he went about it was just pathetic. But that is the past.
I have not spoken to him since, if he is the same I do not want to talk to such a person, and I don't really give a bloody damn what anyone says.

I have changed a lot, I am no longer the person that I was back then. I do not give a shit if you are a moderator or someone in 'so called power' at the end of the day you are human beings. Just because you are made a mod or what which I noticed back then even people thought that they had some sort of authority over you and I would name, names but I rather those people came and challenge me on that one.

I think people need to get a grip that its the past, it cannot be changed, sometimes people never learn till it is too late and those people are not really worth talking about. It is a closed chapter now.

Further on I really like this site, it is much better than before and I do agree that this site is not Isaac's but he was good at what he did, not who he is , but what he did and you should take advices from people who have been there did that. Further on my wish would be that the old site was to return and things go back to normal but Isaac does not need to manage it, he could have given owner ship to someone else which I know this other very successful forum did.

Shit happens, get over it.

PILLZ-E · Yesterday, 06:51 PM

I know everyone has and will always have a lot to say about this but I'm starting to feel like we're beating a dead horse...

just saying.

Almost-Insane · Yesterday, 06:56 PM

indeed nothing will change now - the past is the past, maybe learn from it (by that i mean you could all swap contact details for example). let bygones be bygones mistakes happen etc.