Let me tell you all something

nelvannya · 05-17-2008, 10:08 PM

So right there is this great fucking quote and it's "the more a man knows about his world, the less he likes it"
I swear there are days that I wish I could be an ignorant fool. I mean omg people are sick, and I am so disgusted, by all of this like there is this fucking fool who makes videos he pays fucking homeless to do stupid shit, like ripping out there teeth, beating themself up, beating other homeless up, I mean what the fuck.
But what is worse is that people watch this shit! THEY PAY THIS MAN TO WATCH THIS... i mean what the hell how can you hate how can you mock those that are lowest among you... those who have nothing... and for some of them yes I will admit all they want is alcohol or drugs... so now we mock those who have given up everything because of an addiction? Jesus, I never want to bring a child into this world... and if I do "I pray that she would be a beautiful fool"

CyberPhoenix Kay? · 05-18-2008, 11:41 AM

that's just twisted, but the worst part is that there is alot more like him, and alot more even worse.

sarah2 · 05-18-2008, 12:01 PM

What, like on Nathan Barley? Do you know this guy?
Heh, get used to it, I guess the world is just shit. And you're right, I know it so well, people love to kick you when you're down, I got asked to do some weird shit when I was on the streets, and some horrible shit, because when people know you're desperate they know they can take advantage of you, an addict is the easiest person to use for power, because if you've got money or drugs, we will literally do anything.
And I guess it's not the world, its the people in it. There will always be power hungary shits who have no consideration for other people, who don't recognise them as humans.

stigma · 05-19-2008, 04:27 PM

That is sick. I can't believe someone would/could do that; but I guess I shouldn't be shocked.

I agree with you Nel, the more I learn about the world, the sadder I become. Our world is already in a bad place and it's just going to get worse.

Almost-Insane · 05-19-2008, 04:57 PM

i know one guy from skl who made a homeless guy dance in the streets for £5...so ye the world is pretty twisted

CyberPhoenix Kay? · 05-20-2008, 05:07 AM

I'd dance in the street for $5...provided there was no traffic...

the fact that he was taking advantage of a homeless guys situation however is disgusting...

This world is a sad place, I however, concentrate on the good, and it works quite well.

louvitti · 05-20-2008, 12:58 PM

That's terrible; recently on the O'Reilly Factor they showed these girls beating the hell out of 1 girl on YOU TUBE. Now there is a copy cat video on YOU TUBE. What the hell is goIng on in this world. The dictionary will soon have 1 word-violence.

In Stanley Kupricks visions of the future be correct in the movie, A CLOCK WORK ORANGE?
Is George Orwell's 1984 another vision?

What thrill does one get fom violence or why are they doing it. Could It be the exposure to all these designer drugs. What happened to green.

Personally, I like Spy Games, Spiderman, Walker Texas Ranger. Ironman and Chaplin with Robert Downey Jr.

sarah2 · 05-20-2008, 05:54 PM

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In Stanley Kupricks visions of the future be correct in the movie, A CLOCK WORK ORANGE?
Is George Orwell's 1984 another vision?

What thrill does one get fom violence or why are they doing it. Could It be the exposure to all these designer drugs. What happened to green.

I know what you mean, although that movie was designed to shock, it wasn't so far from what people actually do, but I don't think it's about society getting worse, it's always been there, when Clockwork Orange came out, it was skin heads beating the absolute shit out of each other, go back another 100 years, you've got slavery and horrible abuse, go back further you've got sacrifcing virgins to please Gods - the only difference now is that we've got cameras to film it on. Humanity is a seriously fucked up species, we like to fuck each other over for like, no reason!

Whats a designer drug?

I recon drugs do make a difference, but only when you're sober. People seem to think if you're a junkie, you're dangerous, yeah, I'm dangerous when I need a fix, but when I've scored? Good luck trying to get me to move, let alone beat someone up!

My Dreams killed me · 05-22-2008, 03:22 PM

I don't know, I just don't know. I've seen so much worse and so much better, but I don't think it really changes the situation by just goin "oh that's so terrible". Whatever happens, happens, and usually whether we try to deny the fact or not. It happens for a reason. Now don't belive me for a second that I'm siding with those sick fucks (for lack of better term to describe them), but you can't just say it's just the people that was paying thems's faults. I mean, the homeless are just as guilty for perticipating. I know most of you are going to say something close to "You have no idea what it's like to be homeless", which in a sense might be true. I have lived in a car before, but I was still relativly safe and not desperate. Sarah's been through it much rougher than I am, but still..I guess what I'm trying to say is. You can't just blame the manipulators. If someone gave me a gun and told me to shoot the president and had a gun to my head. I'd hope I'd have the courage to say no, even if the situation would just be easier if I went and shot the guy.

sarah2 · 05-22-2008, 10:12 PM

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I don't know, I just don't know. I've seen so much worse and so much better, but I don't think it really changes the situation by just goin "oh that's so terrible". Whatever happens, happens, and usually whether we try to deny the fact or not. It happens for a reason. Now don't belive me for a second that I'm siding with those sick fucks (for lack of better term to describe them), but you can't just say it's just the people that was paying thems's faults. I mean, the homeless are just as guilty for perticipating. I know most of you are going to say something close to "You have no idea what it's like to be homeless", which in a sense might be true. I have lived in a car before, but I was still relativly safe and not desperate. Sarah's been through it much rougher than I am, but still..I guess what I'm trying to say is. You can't just blame the manipulators. If someone gave me a gun and told me to shoot the president and had a gun to my head. I'd hope I'd have the courage to say no, even if the situation would just be easier if I went and shot the guy.

I get what you're saying, and I'm not an expert or anything, but I have been there for more than just a week or so.
It's not just the having no money and no shelter, the practical things, although, they are a big factor obviously. It's how you fucking feel, how some people treat you, you feel like you're nothing, everyones trying to pass you onto someone else, you're not their responsibility. And you're scared that if something happens to you, no one will even fucking notice, no ones gonna help you, no one else knows you exist, you have to look out for yourself and help yourself out, and if you've got nothing, no food, no money, and more importantly (that is IF you are an addict - obviously, not all homeless people are) no drugs/drink, you will literally do anything to get some money - to survive.

I don't understand how you can place blame on the homeless for just doing what it takes to survive. It's your opinion, and I honestly respect that, but I don't get it!

And it's not just about being homeless, a lot of the time, it's about addiction too and if you don't know what it's like to be (you may know very well) completly controlled by something like that, you just cant judge it.
There's your reason, there's the blame - desperation. Living on the streets reeks of the stuff, desperation, regret, bitterness - when your life is surrounded by that, and society telling you that you're a peice of shit, and all you want to do is survive, I can't blame people like that.
Like, I get shit stolen all the time, like one time, the fucking jacket off my back, and this mp3player, of my boyfriends (I know its a stupid thing, but it meant so much to me after he died), I was so pissed off, but, to be fair, those guys were homeless too, it was raining, we were all cold and hungry and we all needed another fix, it's like, I don't blame them.

It's weird, I guess no one knows how they're gonna act when they're under pressure, we can hope we'll do the right thing, but untill you are there, in the moment, how can you really know?
When you're desperate, suddenly, things kinda...pop up, people SEE that you're desperate and they think, hey, I can make some money out of this girl, she's down on her luck, mabey she'll help me out, for a fee. Opportunities to make money just seem to turn up with these people, who can make a bit on the side and leave you to do the dirty work, it's easy money and when it's all you can get, you will take it, because survival to me means drugs, first, food, shelter, second and morals, principles that I had when I was living at home with my parents, well, they're way down on that list!
Favours, favours, little bit here and there, I've seen people beat guys till they're nearly dead just for a couple bags.
I mean, what about prostitution? You think it's my fault that I'm a dirty fucking whore, or... is it the people who put me here, the people who passed me off for nothing, the fuckers who picked on me when I was down and knew they could minipulate me because they knew I was desperate? Who's to blame?

louvitti · 05-23-2008, 12:14 AM

There is a book by Jill Bolte Taylor,a video and a series on Ophrey. She was neurophy who had a stroke. She knows how to separate the right and left parts of the brain. She developed these revelations while having the stroke. She does not remember the past and now still does it. She moves forward. If you watch Cesar Milan, he says that dogs always move forward and don't remember the past.

DON'T WATCH THIS SHIT AND STAY ON YOUR OWN PATH.
The news has become an entertainment industry to make $. It's unfortunate there is a market for this OR do people have any control over their thoughts or are a few rich people in this world, the Illuminate that control all of us through the media to make $ and keep us down as Americans.
The Conspiracy Theory with Mel Gibson hints at this concept.

AIMP
Vitti

Markme · 05-26-2008, 10:33 AM

This world is extremely crap...
this life is horrifying with its immoralities and its ignorance of how others feel.

but without all our pain, the suffering, the death, the hate..
we would have nothing.

like it or not, but this is why some of us can thank ourselves for being lucky.
we can be thankful we either arent on the streets, arent fighting each other to the death for money... and most of all.. be thankful that we are alive and not dead.

Even people who want to die are scared to die.
Because we are afraid to not exist, that there isnt something on the other side.

Ive wanted to kill myself so many times..
and you know what stopped me, i just didnt want it to go black and be nothing.
i wanted all the pain, the hurt to go away, but i didnt want that to be it and never feel anything again.

nelvannya · 05-27-2008, 05:30 PM

I just dont see the point in taking advantage of someone who has nothing... yes the world is sick and I really wish I was sometime and ignorant wealthy prep

sarah2 · 05-27-2008, 08:25 PM

Nah, don't wish to be ignorant!
I'd much rather be like this, at least seeing the world for what it is when I'm awake and sober to it (ok, not all of the time!) than not understand it. I used to go to a posh private school and some of the kids there knew nothing about suffering, they didn't even know what poverty meant, they were completly ignorant to the very real suffering people go through all over the world. I would hate to be like that, to not even see it. We've got to experiance the awful to experiance the wonderful stuff too. If we were blind to the shit, we'd be blind to so much beauty also.
It's like, I'm from a wealthy family, but they've all fallen apart, their money never made them happy and it never will, I know people who have nothing, on the streets or people who have got clean and survived the awful stuff and they are so content, so happy, they see all the beauty in the world because they can appreciate the little things for what they are, I'd much rather suffer all my life to have a second of beauty and love and live reality rather than a warped, spoilt, unhappy and predictable life for money and ignorance.
I know what you mean though, sometimes I also wish to be ignorant of it all, to live a completly prescribed, predictable existance, but I recon...well, it'd get boring!

Markme · 05-28-2008, 02:34 AM

i agree...
predictable is boring.

and to the few who know what i want to do with my life... yes i want to be a super rich guy, but i dont want to be the evil kind.
i want to help people out with their problems and with more money, i would have more reach... world wide.

I think we all have to suffer before we can truely appreciate the good things in life and how easy some of us live.

Sarah you have lived a very hard life compared to mine.
And you are still so level headed which amazes me, you can see the beauty in the simple things.... if only life didnt kick us while we were down.