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Old 05-13-2008, 01:00 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I guess all ive got left to say is that
dude, nothing is impossible, anything can happen and she may forgive you fast enough if you show her how messed up you have been over it and just tell her it was a mistake.
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Old 05-13-2008, 07:55 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Oh.. CyberPhoenix.. you just reminded me. About the leading on thing..

Umm before it happened when we were in bed, and she was still awake, I took off her bra. And yeahhh.. I was allowed to see and touch her nipples and all that.. playing with boobs is always fun.

And I did try to kiss her but she said that she didn't want to get me sick.

But that's still no excuse for what I did.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:27 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Umm.... OK, she let you do that? it's no wonder that you were turned on.

I'm not sure she had the right to do that either.

That puts a REALLY big spin on things, i'm not sure what is right or wrong anymore...

And the fact that she would let you do that, but not the other things...is quite odd...
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:37 AM   #19 (permalink)
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What do you mean by the other things?
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Old 05-13-2008, 12:39 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Sweetheart... you did nothing wrong. Sorry to say it but you didnt abuse or assault her. The girl is embaressed about what she did, probably feels a bit sick in the stomach about it. You did nothing wrong... unless you started doing the other things and she said no...
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Old 05-13-2008, 12:52 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I don't think you understand.
She was asleep when I did the other things? Isn't that abuse?
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Okay so you all were doing something then she asked u to stop doing whatever it was...
the she fell and you kept doing stuff...
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:24 AM   #23 (permalink)
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wow im extremely lost...
so she was asleep but said no you couldnt kiss here.. even though u you were playing with her breasts?

or was she asleep, i dont understand what you are trying to imply
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Old 05-14-2008, 07:12 AM   #24 (permalink)
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She was AWAKE but I wasn't allowed to kiss her cause she didn't want me to get sick. Pretty sure that was just an excuse though. BUT I was allowed to play with her breasts, while she was AWAKE.

After that, she fell asleep and then I did stuff THROUGH (not in) her pants. But nothing else.

Still bad though. :(

We haven't talked since. It's really eating at me.
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Old 05-14-2008, 08:49 AM   #25 (permalink)
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My guess is that she was awake when you did stuff when she was asleep, then she was too embarrased/guilty about it the next day and so is blaming it on you knowing that you are a nice guy and you will take the guff.
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Old 05-14-2008, 10:17 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Sort of seems that way actually. But I don't know, she's a pretty heavy sleeper.

It's sort of weird that she was like: 'i'm not sure if you did or not'. then later she seemed so sure and said stuff like: 'i was awake for a few seconds and felt something but i think i told myself it was a dream'.

I really don't know anymore actually.
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Old 05-14-2008, 10:22 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Wow. Now that I think about it even more..

Okay, I actually tried to go beneath her pants.. yeah, that's bad I know. But every time I tried, she'd like turn away or like move her hand to stop my hand.. I don't think that sounds like she was asleep at all.
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Old 05-14-2008, 10:50 AM   #28 (permalink)
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You should probably ask her directly, or more tell her than ask her, becuase she was.

"You were awake, weren't you?"

Even if she denies it, she will know that you know, and that he fascade no longer holds, hopefully resolving the problem.
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Old 05-15-2008, 04:04 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I really think the girl knew what she was doing and now regrets it.
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:59 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I couldn't agree more nelv.
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