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Old 03-21-2008, 05:47 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Well I dont plan to be divorced... but ultimately NO matter how much you get to be with a person, how much unity is in the marriage, people now think in an independent manner, the other person has a say. I dont trust the other person.

If I was to marry I would marry Mark... then kill him off when he gets to powerful lols!
Great sex too...sorry back on track

In the end young people r to young
LOL true.. people are too independent with their thoughts nowadays which is kinda sad..haha they should find a partner that's less dominant if they are and vice versa. That should fix it.

haha killing Mark..is that a good idea? LOL tsk tsk...
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Old 03-21-2008, 09:38 AM   #17 (permalink)
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i dont think you can say that australian men are ignorant... when you actually live in australia.
Also i could also add that you would not know a majority of the make population that we went to school with.

Young marriage is a waste, young adults thing they know what they want and think they know what is the best thing.

In reality, people always want something different because people always change.

hahaha and tash, how do you know it would be great sex ?
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:09 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Hmm..but australian men has gained some bad reputation but I won't go there. Yes I don't know but I have observed the guys in our school. I'm not saying all are but there are some that gives them a bad rap. Maybe Ignorant wasnt the word...i meant something else..
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Old 03-21-2008, 06:13 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Mark by the way you talk... It better be DAMN good sex..lols
But I believe that this discussion has gone else where, besides young marriage.
Now that we have heard from the opponency,
Do we have a proponency post???
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Old 03-22-2008, 12:43 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Yeah, but nowerdays, you don't have to get married if the girl gets pregnant!
There are many other alternatives I think you'll find.
Like What? I know there may be alternitives out there, but it's very hard to raise a child with only one parent....If that's what you ment by "alternitves". Also Child Support can never replace a father/mother. Of course there are other ways, I just think marrige is the best way for the kid...which I guess in my biased belif that the child should come first before the parents personal intrests.
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Yes exactly..for the child's sake at least raise it together..There are so many poor peeps without either the mother or the father..
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Old 03-23-2008, 01:40 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Dont think I would get married as a teen, want to be some what able to support myself before i get married, or even get an apartment with my girlfriend.

personally I dont think anyone should get married unless between the two of them, they have a pot to pee in.
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Old 03-23-2008, 01:51 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Like What? I know there may be alternitives out there, but it's very hard to raise a child with only one parent....If that's what you ment by "alternitves". Also Child Support can never replace a father/mother. Of course there are other ways, I just think marrige is the best way for the kid...which I guess in my biased belif that the child should come first before the parents personal intrests.
Bringing a child up together dosn't neccesarily mean marriage.
I think that having a father and mother who perhaps do not live together or are not married, but still do things together as a family and both spend a good amount of time with the kid is a hell of a lot better than having parents who got married because they thought they had to/where forced to by parents because the girl got pregnant and end up hating each other, fighting and not paying enough attention to the kid? I'm not saying that always happens, but it cannot be ruled out as a possibiity can it? My mother wanted to have an abortion, but was forced to keep her child, ie, me, and our relationship has completly broken down due to both our resentments of each other. There is no point marring someone you do not love just because you are pregnant, you will be unhappy and that unhappiness will reflect on the child and resentment may very well seriously effect you and the child.
There are other, healthier ways to bring up a child if you get pregnant by someone you do not want to marry.
And there is always abortion, adoption...etc.
There are plenty of options for pregnant teenagers, do not say there arn't or else people will feel forced into unhappy marriages and not only fuck up their lives but the lives of their children BY getting married.

I had an abortion 2 years ago, and I'm not going to start complaining about that, because it is part of my life, but say I hadn't, and I'd had the kid right, apart from my lifestyle choices not working with a child, say I had read your post and thought, fuck, my kid is gonna be messed up if I don't marry the father, you're suggesting I should have married the man who raped me? Yeah, that wouldn't have been a dysfunctional family, the child would have reaaalllly thanked me...
What I'm trying to say, is think about the different possibilities because it is not as black and white as you think it is.
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:40 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Imo it depends how long you've known the person you're marrying. If you've been going out since you were 12, say, then you're practically married already. It's all about the strength and longevity of the relationship; life is, unfortunately, not a fairytale, and only one in a billion couples could meet their soulmate, marry them within the week and live happily ever after.

Marriages built on lust and love alone aren't going to last long; you need friendship and stability and trust in there too, and if you've been going out for a very very very long time and have told each other everything and worked through it and have come out the other side okay, then it's not really going to matter if you wait til you're 18 or 28.

However I think the first step is moving in together; if you can live with each other 24/7 without being at each other's throats then you're on the right track.

Marrying just because you're pregnant is stupid, especially if you don't like the person you're marrying. There are so many kids out there with only one parent and correct me if i'm wrong but they seem to be doing okay.
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I cant see why people can be married by the time their 18, its just a scary prospect. i have a friend who has talked to her boyfriend about getting married and children and they are just 19 and been together for just over 2 years. i just cant see how they know what they want or if thats what they want.
personally i cant see myself married, but if i was to be it wont be for a long time because i dont fully know myself or what im looking out of life just yet - and i dont think as a teen many peopel truthfully know what the answer to those questions are. if id married as a teen i know that id be divorced within weeks! plus if you look back to all them couples from school that were really in love and all that - maybe its just people i know but i dont know any who have actually stayed that way.
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Old 03-28-2008, 08:46 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Yes exactly. That's what I don't get it either. People say they are all in love and etc. But really at such a young age, we do not know what we want in life. You don't have a steady career/ income to support yourself and your family and maybe havent even completed your education. So sometimes love isn't all. Circumstances are influencing too..
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Old 03-28-2008, 09:53 PM   #27 (permalink)
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^more lust that love, or they love the idea of being in love!
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Old 03-29-2008, 01:38 PM   #28 (permalink)
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i more think its because love is used alot and it sounds better and more mature than saying "i really really like you more than a friend"...

love is generalised more as a thing these days than a feeling, i personally am not for love, it hurts..
Then again you have to choose the right person to fall inlove with.

at a young age people know what they want, but people are more inclined to cheat, have sex, go out drinking and partying and meet other guys and gals...
when your older you party less, drink less and your really not going out to hook up with some girls..

although i know there is exceptions and im talking 30+
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Old 03-30-2008, 09:10 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I was reading Walden Two by B.F.Skinner.

He argued that the reason why young marriages don't work out is because society puts them down so much, turning it into a self fulfilling prophesy. not to mention the economic limitation that society sets up to prevent such young marriages.
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Old 03-31-2008, 07:48 AM   #30 (permalink)
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i gotta say that your right that there is alot of economic limitations for the younger generation in society.
Talent isnt neccessarily looked at, even if ur shit at ur job your uni degree is worth more than knowing what ur doing.
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