[Tommeh!!!]

well the thing is, a resteraunt ISNT a public place, its a privately owned business, and the thing is you say they are being selfish for not letting kids in, but isnt that very selfish for the people who dont like going to eat somewhere where there are kids?

you can say well fuck them for being miserable bastards but thats totally hypocritical as they have as much right as the children, these places are the minority compared to places that DO let kids in so why not let them have a couple of places where they can be comfortable in a child free environment.

and yeah, punishing and disadvantaging are two very different things, they cant go, but that doesnt that its a punishment. And i really cant see how the child would feel punished for not going to a place its never been to, id hardly imagine the parents would be rubbing salt in the wound. Not to mention its a fairly simple concept to grasp so i doubt many children wouldnt understand it, if they did, id imagine they are too young to give a shit anyway. :/

also can you no think of any occasions where having kids around could be a pain in the arse? a wake perhaps or maybe a valentines day dinner at a well reputed coupley kinda place?

The thing is businesses have target audiences, this place appeals to a no-children audience, its not selfish, its business provided for quiet occasions and childless people and if YOU think they dont deserve a place to go then thats disadvantaging them which completely turns your arguement against you. because that would be the pot calling the kettle black so to speak.